Train Sim Safe House
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Route Riter Oddity

Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Route Riter Oddity

Post  rufuskins Sun 19 Jan 2020, 10:47 am

Today I got this error message when I opened Route Riter:-
Route Riter Oddity Router10
I then downloaded and reinstalled Java - jre1.8.0_241 - assuming something had happened??? After installation and restarting the computer Route Riter gave the same message. On clicking the OK button Route Riter worked as normal. I then closed RR and started it again and yet again got the same message. My browser is Google Chrome and I believe this  is not keen on Java. Could this be a reason for the message or is it something else? Any suggestions would be appreciated?


ALEC - Supporter of MSTS and TSSH!

rufuskins

Posts : 3611
Join date : 2013-01-17
Age : 72
Location : Milnrow, Lancashire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  slipperman12 Sun 19 Jan 2020, 6:24 pm

Hi Alec,
There is no problem running Route_Riter with Chrome also running!  You say Chrome doesn't like Java, but that doesn't matter to R_R because it doesn't use the browser!!

I think the real reason may be because you haven't created a folder named -  classes - in the main Java folder, and then copied the contents of the Route_Riter/TSUtil folder into it.
If you haven't already done so, I suggest you also create two empty folders within the Route_Riter folder named - TempFiles and TempFiles2.  This is because R_R creates these folders, by default, in what is now a Windows protected folder and, for some actions, needs to write to them, which it's now unable to do!

Cheers,
Ged


Intel i5 4690K (3.5GHz), Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 m/b, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 750ti (2GB), ASUS Xonar DS Sound Card, Win 10 Pro 64 bit.

slipperman12

Posts : 1699
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 78
Location : North Nottinghamshire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Thanks

Post  Bagpiper Sun 19 Jan 2020, 8:08 pm

...and another issue I had that has been resolved Wink I am guilty of not reading instructions. lol
Cheers for both the question and answer.

All the best and hope 2020 is treating everyone well

Cheers Very Happy


Microsoft Train Simulator, Open Rails, Train Sim World, Train Simulator 2020
Bagpiper
Bagpiper

Posts : 3
Join date : 2019-12-27
Age : 60
Location : St. Louis, MO. USA

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  slipperman12 Sun 19 Jan 2020, 8:40 pm

My pleasure, Bagpiper Smile
I only hope it has solved Alec's problem!!

Cheers,
Ged


Intel i5 4690K (3.5GHz), Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 m/b, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 750ti (2GB), ASUS Xonar DS Sound Card, Win 10 Pro 64 bit.

slipperman12

Posts : 1699
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 78
Location : North Nottinghamshire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  rufuskins Mon 20 Jan 2020, 3:12 pm

Hi Ged
Thanks for the reply and suggestions but they do not resolve this oddity. Whenever I update Java I always copy the Classes folder from the previous installation. I haven't touched Route Riter so the TempFiles and TempFiles2 folders are already there.
I call it an oddity because Route Riter works after clicking the OK button on the error message and hence must recognise that Java is present, although the error message says it isn't!


ALEC - Supporter of MSTS and TSSH!

rufuskins

Posts : 3611
Join date : 2013-01-17
Age : 72
Location : Milnrow, Lancashire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  slipperman12 Mon 20 Jan 2020, 3:59 pm

Hi Alec,
Well, that is an oddity!!  However, first things first - when you install Route_Riter, it DOES NOT add TempFiles and TempFiles2 folders into its own installation folder!

Now, back to the oddity ....
I have recently switched to using Win 10 full time and had never used Route_Riter until today!  When I did, I got the message that Java wasn't installed and checking with the Java folder in C:\Program Files, found it there but without the 'classes' folder.  On creating it and populating it with the contents of the TSUtil folder, R_R now starts without displaying that message.

It doesn't seem to matter to R_R whether you're using the 64- or 32-bit version of Java.  I suggest that you closely check your C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) folders; if you've got Java in either, make sure there's only one version of Java in each - preferably the latest!  If you've got Java in both folders, make sure each has the populated 'classes' folder.  I have a feeling that if it's in Program Files (x86), R_R will use it in preference to that in Program Files. The 'one version only' is important because if you've installed a new version of Java, not deleted the old version and not copied the 'classes' folder over, the System, and, therefore, Route_Riter, will only 'see' the latest version, which is classes-less!!

Only some functions of Route_Riter actually need Java to be present - the simple Route/Activity/Stock Checks do not, which is why R_R will actually start and allow you to perform them.

Cheers,
Ged


Intel i5 4690K (3.5GHz), Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 m/b, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 750ti (2GB), ASUS Xonar DS Sound Card, Win 10 Pro 64 bit.

slipperman12

Posts : 1699
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 78
Location : North Nottinghamshire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  Jonathan David Tue 21 Jan 2020, 8:12 am

I did as Slipperman recommended and it didn't work. I then moved the "Classes" folder to within the "jre1.8.0_241" folder inside the "Java" folder and that did the trick.
Does that help you Alac?
Jonathan

Jonathan David

Posts : 186
Join date : 2016-08-10
Age : 74
Location : Newtown, Powys

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  rufuskins Tue 21 Jan 2020, 4:47 pm

For some reason I have two Java folders one in Program Files and the other in Program Files (x86) as was suggested by Ged! Prior to my "oddity" report they had always been in the latter, and the recent Java install put it in the former as I have just discovered. Java have always downloaded the 64 bit version of any update that up to now appears to have gone to Program Files (x86). Anyway I have copied the Classes folder into the Program Files version and Route Riter now opens without any error message.


ALEC - Supporter of MSTS and TSSH!

rufuskins

Posts : 3611
Join date : 2013-01-17
Age : 72
Location : Milnrow, Lancashire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  Jonathan David Tue 21 Jan 2020, 5:30 pm

Shortly after I had successfully copied the "Classes" folder into Java as stated above I did a Java update. It kindly deleted the "classes" folder! I have just reinstated it.
So whatever you do retain the "common" folder somewhere safe.
Jonathan

Jonathan David

Posts : 186
Join date : 2016-08-10
Age : 74
Location : Newtown, Powys

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  slipperman12 Tue 21 Jan 2020, 6:36 pm

Hi
@ Jonathan : With respect, my recommendation has ALWAYS been to create a 'classes' folder in the main Java folder, so I don't know where you went wrong previously!! Maybe you put it in the 'Java' folder?

@ Alec : I don't recollect recommending that you have a Java folder in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) - the important point is that whichever you installed last should have the 'classes' folder. This is because the System will only recognise the last version to be installed, be it in C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86).

Cheers,
Ged


Intel i5 4690K (3.5GHz), Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 m/b, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 750ti (2GB), ASUS Xonar DS Sound Card, Win 10 Pro 64 bit.

slipperman12

Posts : 1699
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 78
Location : North Nottinghamshire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  Jonathan David Tue 21 Jan 2020, 8:51 pm

Sorry, a typing error on my part in the last post. I meant that one should always have the Route Riter "classes" folder kept somewhere safe and easy to find (naturally in the Route Riter folder at least) as if a Java update is installed it will delete the "classes folder" along with everything else when it installs the new version.
And yes, I meant to put it in the folder inside the jre1.8.0_241 folder, not in the outer Java folder. The latter is what I did the first time which didn't work.
Incidentally, I must have created the TempFiles and TempFiles2 folders inside the Route Riter folder as they are there but empty. But it must have been because of what I read some time ago as I have no memory of doing it.
Anyway, working again now.
Jonathan

Jonathan David

Posts : 186
Join date : 2016-08-10
Age : 74
Location : Newtown, Powys

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  rufuskins Tue 21 Jan 2020, 10:42 pm

All I would say in conclusion is that when I first updated Java (jre1.8.0_241 and those before) it installed in Program Files (x86), when the error appeared and I reinstalled Java (jre1.8.0_241) it went into Program Files. As I said I found this odd but now that I have Java in both folders it will be interesting to see where the next update installs? Anyway Route Riter appears to be working normally so onwards and sideways!


ALEC - Supporter of MSTS and TSSH!

rufuskins

Posts : 3611
Join date : 2013-01-17
Age : 72
Location : Milnrow, Lancashire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  slipperman12 Tue 21 Jan 2020, 10:47 pm

Hi,
@ Jonathan : That's good to know, mate Smile
I should really differentiate between the 'Java' and the 'JRE1.*' folders!!

@ Alec : I'm pretty certain that if you select the 32-bit version, Java will install into C:\Program Files (x86), otherwise, it'll go into C:\Program Files. I don't think you have a choice!

Cheers,
Ged


Intel i5 4690K (3.5GHz), Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 m/b, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 750ti (2GB), ASUS Xonar DS Sound Card, Win 10 Pro 64 bit.

slipperman12

Posts : 1699
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 78
Location : North Nottinghamshire

Back to top Go down

Route Riter Oddity Empty Re: Route Riter Oddity

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum