Central Line 1960 Stock
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Central Line 1960 Stock
I have built a model of the LT 1960 stock as used on the Central Line to accompany my recently uploaded Chiltern line. A user noted that some of the cars merge into each other. The screenshot below shows how the trailing cars merge into the driving cars but not into each other (nor do the driving cars merge into each other).
I have tried tweaking the length parameter in the wag file but this seems to have had no effect. If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful to hear from them.
Martin
I have tried tweaking the length parameter in the wag file but this seems to have had no effect. If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful to hear from them.
Martin
docmartin- Posts : 30
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 80
Location : Louisiana, USA
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
Hi Martin,
I'm sorry, I don't know the answer, but ...
Does the consist appear correctly in the sim? If so, I would suspect a problem with the Consist Editor.
If the problem does appear in the sim, Open Rails doesn't use the .sd file entries but uses the Size Z value from the .eng file and (I'm pretty sure) the ro values from the Coupling section. I may be wrong here, but I think it also uses the CentreOf Gravity value.
Apologies for my rather vague reply but it's a while since I had to delve into the problems of vehicle spacing!!
Cheers,
Ged
I'm sorry, I don't know the answer, but ...
Does the consist appear correctly in the sim? If so, I would suspect a problem with the Consist Editor.
If the problem does appear in the sim, Open Rails doesn't use the .sd file entries but uses the Size Z value from the .eng file and (I'm pretty sure) the ro values from the Coupling section. I may be wrong here, but I think it also uses the CentreOf Gravity value.
Apologies for my rather vague reply but it's a while since I had to delve into the problems of vehicle spacing!!
Cheers,
Ged
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slipperman12- Posts : 2645
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 82
Location : North Nottinghamshire
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
Hi Ged,
The consist appears in the sim exactly as is shown in the Consist Editor. The problem with altering the z dimension is that it increases the gap between the cars equally at both ends thereby, whilst opening up a gap between the trailing cars and the driving cars, also increasing the gap between the trailing cars to an unacceptable extent. Although as far as I can tell in TSM the trailing cars are centered correctly around the y axis, I wonder whether this needs to be adjusted somewhat to get the desired effect of an equal gap at both ends.
Martin
The consist appears in the sim exactly as is shown in the Consist Editor. The problem with altering the z dimension is that it increases the gap between the cars equally at both ends thereby, whilst opening up a gap between the trailing cars and the driving cars, also increasing the gap between the trailing cars to an unacceptable extent. Although as far as I can tell in TSM the trailing cars are centered correctly around the y axis, I wonder whether this needs to be adjusted somewhat to get the desired effect of an equal gap at both ends.
Martin
docmartin- Posts : 30
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 80
Location : Louisiana, USA
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
G'day Martin,
Give this tutorial a try !
https://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/length.html
Regards, Brian
Give this tutorial a try !
https://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/length.html
Regards, Brian
"Any railway that paints their locomotives such a magnificent shade of red, must be the most superior in the land" (apologies to the late David Jenkinson).
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
Looks like you do not have the model correctly centred.
Measure the distance from front coupling face to rear coupling face.
Make a box with this length.
This will give the true origin for the model
select all (A)
Deselect the new box
Move the complete model to the to the new origin.
Centre axis of the Main part to origin.
Delete the new box.
Cross your fingers and try the model in the sim.
Measure the distance from front coupling face to rear coupling face.
Make a box with this length.
This will give the true origin for the model
select all (A)
Deselect the new box
Move the complete model to the to the new origin.
Centre axis of the Main part to origin.
Delete the new box.
Cross your fingers and try the model in the sim.
ianmacmillan- Posts : 180
Join date : 2013-01-18
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
Another alternative to Ian's method.
Measure the distance from front coupling face to rear coupling face.
Set the Grid Size to HALF of this dimension.
Select All
Move / slide the whole model to fit exactly between the centred grid lines
Unselect All
Centre axis of the Main part to origin.
Export to sim (or temp folder), then save.
I always export to a temp folder where I massage the model until I'm satisfied with it, then, and only then do I move the final model into either the Trainset or the route, dependent on what the model is.
Regards, Brian
Measure the distance from front coupling face to rear coupling face.
Set the Grid Size to HALF of this dimension.
Select All
Move / slide the whole model to fit exactly between the centred grid lines
Unselect All
Centre axis of the Main part to origin.
Export to sim (or temp folder), then save.
I always export to a temp folder where I massage the model until I'm satisfied with it, then, and only then do I move the final model into either the Trainset or the route, dependent on what the model is.
Regards, Brian
"Any railway that paints their locomotives such a magnificent shade of red, must be the most superior in the land" (apologies to the late David Jenkinson).
Re: Central Line 1960 Stock
Thanks for your replies. I don't think it is a centering problem - the stock appears exactly centered in TSM. Since the gaps on either side of the trailing cars are unequal, I suspect it may be a Centre of Gravity problem. The Steam4Tutorial should be helpful and I am grateful for being pointed towards it.
Martin
Martin
docmartin- Posts : 30
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 80
Location : Louisiana, USA
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