LNWR Stock

Brian, you have a PM on the UKTS forum.

Having taken a quick survey of what corridor coaches we have available (between my coaches and Alec's coaches), I have expanded the range again.

A LNWR D35A 65'6" 12-wheel Clerestory roof Composite Diner.



Regards, Brian

Today I have uploaded a couple of LNWR coach packs to UKTS - awaiting approval, they should be available soon.

Corridor coaches pack V4 - adds the D35A clerestory roof restaurant composite Dining Saloon

Animated TPO coaches - the same TPO coaches as in the previous corridor coaches pack - BUT NOW they are animated - these are non-powered electric locos and the side doors, traductor arms and net are activated by the P and Shift+P keys (pantograph keys) - however, note that these will work ONLY IN OPEN RAILS.

More coaches for your route - great news.

I have been eyeing up diners and sleepers myself, so will need to rethink those?

Is the West Coast Joint Stock relevant to the Black Country route? And if so much how much of it is available? I have three downloads from Rail-Fan Marcel but I don't know the quality.
A really magnificent enterprise, Ralph and "Shortnorth". Now we really need some more suitable routes - the MT&A, Birmingham suburban and a pre-Grouping version of Thames- Mersey come to mind. But I am afraid work on routes is completely beyond me.
Jonathan

To the best of my knowledge the WCJS ran through Birmingham, and hence WCJS carriages would be appropriate on Brian's LNWR route. I am not sure at this stage what WCJS stock is currently available, although a number of LNWR carriage diagrams were also used for WCJS diagrams. In the future I may look at what WCJS stock I can either create from scratch or tweak from my current carriages.

Just a couple of comments to answer both Jonathan and Alec.

The WCJS was a joint effort between the LNWR and the Caledonian Railway for service between Euston and Scotland - the LNWR hauled the train to Carlisle, where the CR took over for the Scottish section. The WCJS was built (at Wolverton by the LNWR) and paid for by both companies - this eliminated the complex division of costs and expenses every time the train ran prior to the WCJS agreement.

The WCJS was the most prestigious service on the West Coast, and once the coaches started to show significant aging, were cascaded downwards and subsequently replaced by newer more modern stock, and the superseded stock was divided up between the LNWR and CR and put into general service stock. The vast majority of WCJS was simply a 'normal' LNWR coach diagram with upgraded interiors to suit the service and was dual braked (Vacuum and Westinghouse). Many coach types had both a WCJS diagram number and an equivalent LNWR diagram number.

For the purposes of running in MSTS / OR it really doesn't matter - for the coaches I have made, I have not shown ownership or numbering, so whilst a coach may be 'nominated' as, say, a WCJS BTK, it could equally represent the similar LNWR diagram equivalent. When running past the simulator camera at speed, I defy any user to correctly identify if it was WCJS or LNWR.

Now as far as routes go - the Black Country - LNWR 1920 route has a large section of the West Coast Main Line from just south of Tamworth to just north of Standon Bridge - all trains made up of WCJS ran over this section daily - I don't have any proof of WCJS running via Birmingham New St., but I'm sure there would have been occasional diversions due to accidents, trackwork possesions, etc, that would have come through New St.

I do know of an author who is backdating Thames-Mersey to pre-group era, but I do not know of the time-frame for future release, so Black Country - LNWR 1920 will be the first 'proper' route to be able to run authentic LNWR trains in a suitable scenic environment.

Regards, Brian

Thanks for answering my questions. It sounds as though there would not be much extra stock to model, and the news about Thames-Mersey is very good. But BC-PG will be a very good start.
If anyone wants to pursue the question of WCJS there is an HMRS book which is still in print (though the addendum seems not to be).
Jonathan
HMRS Publications Co-ordinator and therefore bound to give it a plug!

When I purchased my second hand copy of "A Register of WEST COAST JOINT STOCK" it came with a copy of the "Addenda and Corrigenda"! It has been of great help especially with roof profiles.

I am pleased to announce that the Black Country - LNWR 1920 route is now available for download on UKTS.

Excellent news, and all things being equal I may be able to upload several more coach packs together with a wagon pack in the next few days.