Wessex Mainlines

With the aim of releasing Wessex Mainlines pt1, I just would to see if people were interested.

Pt 1 Covers Trowbridge to Westbury, Westbury to Castle Cary and everything in between (merehead and whatley quarries, the Westbury Cement works and Dilton Marsh on the Wessex Mainline to Salisbury). This part has already been released on UKTS but I fully understand that people who are not paid member have struggled so will hopefully get uploaded to here.

Pt 2 Covers Castle Cary to Weymouth and the small branch to Yeovil Junction from Pen Mill (keeping the Semiphore signals) This section is currently being worked on.

Pt 3 onwards will cover everything from Bristol in the north down to Exeter in the South.

If anyone has a question let me know and I will try to answer / help.

Many thanks

Yes please. I didn't download V1 because of its size - even with a subscription it would be iffy with our internet.
So having the route uploaded onto TSSH would be great. It looks really interesting.
I assume that it will be OR compatible.
Jonathan

Hi,

I'm definitely interested and looking forward to the next release having enjoyed the initial release on UKTS.

Regards,

Stephen

I also have the first version installed and would welcome updates. Activities would also be useful!

Is version 1 still available please? Only, I cannot see it anywhere in the UKTS Routes section.
Cheers
Andy

Hi Andy,
Yes, it's still available!  UKTS_36511 - it's under the 'Routes' entry, along with several other routes, within the Routes section!

Cheers,
Ged

I am glad to see people are still interested in the route of which will encourage me and my co-producer (of whom needs a lot of credit) to carry on.

I did ask for UKTS to put the route in its own sub section in routes but this was never done.

The plan is to upload to drop box and then just keep updating so the file size will just grow.

As for activities for the route I have looked into but couldn't figure out on how to do this, by putting in the major paths i was hoping that others could generate some excellent activities from the quarries or from the preserved railway.

Wessex Mainlines will not be the only release we shall do possible 2 or 3 more routes of which I cannot divulge at this time.

Does anyone have any questions or would like to contribute towards this route then please do get in contact with me.

Hello all again.
I am pleased to announce that the Wessex Mainlines V1.2 is soon to be released via dropbox to the site.
If anyone has questions or would like to be a tester please let me know via pm.

Hopefully we shall get a page on the main site under the name of Wessex Team and all things MSTS that we do will be put on there, UKTS will still have up to V1.2 but from here on in this will be its first upload.

Will put another post up when route is ready

Many thanks

Craig

Thanks Craig.

Hi Craig,

Whilst running the route I have noticed that the points don't move. I have several routes that use UKFS and in these the points work perfectly so is this a result of the particular points used or is it me? I have the "fix" installed to correct the shimmering when running with Open Rails.

As I indicated in my pm to you I have finished the current activities for the Dorset Coast Route and I am now starting on some for your route.

Regards,

Stephen

Hi Stephen,
Is it the fact that the points DO move, but the wrong way? There is at least one set of UKFS points that has this problem - ukfs_tr_32m_4d4.s  The left hand version of these points might have the same problem.
Frank Sandwell very kindly supplied me with the fixed shape several years ago and I'm sure he won't mind if I offer it to you.  If this is your problem, let me know and I'll attach it to my next post (assuming the system will let me!).
I've also got what appears to be the left hand version shape, but didn't get it from Frank (don't know where!).

Cheers,
Ged

Hello,

Sorry to hear about the sticking points, i am going to get version 1.2 link from my collegue and i will ensure that the fix is put in before releasing it properly.

Yours Craig

I have the last version of Route Riter released by Mike Simpson.

On the MSTS File Utils tab, there are two command buttons :

'Find stuck points in route'                   and

'Correct stuck points'.

I haven't had a need to use these, so don't know how they work, but maybe it is worth a try to see if your problem is fixed !

Regards, Brian

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the information, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

Regards,

Stephen

Hey all,

I currently have v1.2 in my inbox at present, so when i get the chance i will give the route a once over then will ask Justin to put the link on the site.

Hopefully a nice route to try out the re-released MT stock.

Many thanks

Hi Brian,

I tried your suggestion using Route Riter without any luck. The points also don't move with MSTS.
I'll see what happens when v1.2 is released.

Regards,

Stephen

Hi all,

I have posted this in the UKTS forums as I didnt know someone posted a question and no-one got back to them, so I thought I would post thensame reply here as I think the same person is on both forums and it could be handy for you folks here whi do not use the UKTS any more.

Sorry about the lack of response (I wasnt subscibed in this thread but I am in others).

The track work is done from Trowbridge all the way down to Weymouth as is most of the scenery, I have been working on the speed limits and signalling only to find that Openrails doesnt like working correctly (example heading out of whatley quarry to the Frome line the signal stays red no matter what I do), so a little bit more work needs to be looked in (maybe someone with Open Rails experiance could take a gander).

So far I have signalled and speed limted to best I can do as far as Maiden Newton (thankfully token section).

The route is far from abandoned, we still want to release as much as we can esp the Trowbridge to BTM section which will be popular no doubt, the hopefully we can get down towards Taunton atleast and see where we go from there.

If there is anything else to add I will keep updating, but please feel free to PM me i can always do with additional set of eyes to go over this.

Many thanks Craig and Alistair (Wessex Team).

The PM applies here also.

I have said in an earlier thread that we do have a few other routes so if interested let me know and I shall divolge at least 1 to you all.

Many thanks

Hi Craig,

Looking over in Elvas Tower I found this topic http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/34851-persistent-red-signals/

I hope that this helps,

Stephen

Right small update.

I have gone round to some of the signals that have been causing issues and modified them to get some sort of normality to them so they are now functional.

Signalling is now down to Maiden Newton minus the station which i mucked up on and deleted the latest model,

If anyone wants a working copy so far let me know and I will prep the route.

Many thanks

Greetings everyone.

Just a question for everyone and please let me know wot you guys think.

Part 2 of Wessex Mainlines is more of less done, however we have 1 more thing that needs to be sorted and that is a bestoke station at Maiden Newton (to go with all the other bestoke stations), we do following a hdd crash and the last known station was lost, all we have at the moment is platforms.

So my question to you fine folks

Do you want the route uploaded as is with just platforms and what ever I can throw at it to make it look like a station or would u rather wait until the model is done.

I would like to upload as a present to all here so please let me know.

Many thanks Craig

Hi Craig,

I think wait until the new model is ready otherwise it won't match with the other stations.

Looking forward to part 2 being finished.

Stephen

Hi Craig,
I would tend to agree with Stephen.
I think the saying is : "Why spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar" !!

Cheers,
Ged

Right I better learn how to make the station, atleast I got a starting point already done lol

Right an up date,

I have managed to find a copy of the station building hiding on another PC, so now it is time for a bit of tidy up, package and upload to you amazing people

Amazing work Craig. Very much looking forward to this fabulous extension for the Wessex route.

Thanks

Hi Craig

Have you got any updated news for this route. It's amazing how time flies by!

Thanks

Gary

Hello everyone,

Crickey an update needed, well umm urgh lol

Well the route is certainly not dead I can assure you that much.

There isnt too much left to do, just will need to go through everything and that should be it, my only downside is that I have replaced my PC due to other gaming passions (truck sim, flight sim, race sim, RTS games etc), so I will need to reinstall MSTS as soon as I can get in the garage for all my addons lol.

Things to remember
You will be able to play in normal MSTS (MSTSbin patch), but we have the turntable at Yeovil Junction so the choice is yours lol
It is based modernish but you will have a wide range of stock you can use.

Dont think there are many issues, but if people have issues let me know and I can go through it.

Hope that helps

Cheers Craig

Cheers Craig looking forward to it.Hopefully the Rolling stock will still be available..Neanderthal

Hi Roger,
If the rolling stock was available from UKTS at the time it closed, you should be able to download the files from trainsim.com - search using the UKTS file ID.

Please let me know if you have any difficulties.

Cheers,
Ged

Hi Craig

Thanks for the update.  

One of my main primary routes is Dorset Coast.  It will be great to finally run a service past Dorchester West and running into Yeovil Junction from Pen Mill.
Also thrashing a RR 31 or 37 from Bristol/Westbury to Weymouth.

All the best.
Gary

Hey Gary,

No problems it is my fault for not posting as often as I should.

This route and everything to do with it was a started so long ago, the orignal idea was only Westbury to Weymouth as I used to go down this route many times as a child, but with thanks to Soulie, it has grown to what we have so far and we are not even finished after Weymouth section, Soulie went on a massive track laying exercise, so not only did he work do all the nice pretty things make the stations etc, but now we will be heading up to Bristol Temple Meads next (so we can do most of the older FGW / Wessex Trains / Wales and West Railways) that had the Bristol to Weymouth as one of their core local routes.

With the amount of scope this route has in terms of times, not too much has actually changed.

Now with Open Rails you can turn your loco at Yeovil Junction on Wessex Route (dont forget my unoffical patch for Dorset Coast) for those steam tours thats still go down this way.

Like I said, I just need a bit of time to get everything reinstalled, Wessex 1.2 will be pulled and Wessex 2.0 will be uploaded in its place, this way it will make life alot simpler for end users.

Any questions or help offered, please please please contact me.

Cheers Craig

cgood124 wrote:Hey Gary,

No problems it is my fault for not posting as often as I should.

This route and everything to do with it was a started so long ago, the orignal idea was only Westbury to Weymouth as I used to go down this route many times as a child, but with thanks to Soulie, it has grown to what we have so far and we are not even finished after Weymouth section, Soulie went on a massive track laying exercise, so not only did he work do all the nice pretty things make the stations etc, but now we will be heading up to Bristol Temple Meads next (so we can do most of the older FGW / Wessex Trains / Wales and West Railways) that had the Bristol to Weymouth as one of their core local routes.

With the amount of scope this route has in terms of times, not too much has actually changed.

Now with Open Rails you can turn your loco at Yeovil Junction on Wessex Route (dont forget my unoffical patch for Dorset Coast) for those steam tours thats still go down this way.

Like I said, I just need a bit of time to get everything reinstalled, Wessex 1.2 will be pulled and Wessex 2.0 will be uploaded in its place, this way it will make life alot simpler for end users.

Any questions or help offered, please please please contact me.

Cheers Craig

Hi Craig

Did you finally managed to sort out the signals that was giving you problems? I can't remember if you did or not.

Also, I have some free time now, so I can hopefully help out in anyway!

Thanks
Gary

Hey Gary.
I will need to boot up RE and take a look, if i transferred over everything from my old PC then the problematic signals should be sorted as I removed and replaced them.

As for help its always appreciated and I would like to see if I can put something else in at the same time but I will need a couple things built amongst other things.

I think you have my email if not PM me.

Many thanks

Hello everyone.

Just a quick reply for those asking about Wessex Mainlines (esp Gary LOL).

Have just got a couple of hours and got checked my latest version of the route and I can confirm that the signals are now working correctly but I do seem to have an issue with animation of the points in Openrails atleast (they work in the track monitor though) so if anyone has an idea or would like to take a look at it then please please let me know.

I was going to see if I can add another section of the route from Westbury to Salisbury (if anyone was interested) so we could get a full run eventually from Bristol Temple Meads to Portsmouth (using the common part at Salisbury as border between Wessex and Dorset Coast V6 or when ever that was put in lol), this section was kindly sent to me from Jonathan Powell (who gave us the first version of London to Southampton route), trouble is fixing rails that would link together without the use of dynamic track.

If anyone would like to assist then like before please let me know.

Many thanks

Hi Craig,
Are you using the UKFS Track System?
If so, is it just one of the points shapes which is not animating correctly?
If so, it's probably the known problem with ukfs_tr_32m_4d4.s where it animates the 'wrong way'; I have the replacement shape, supplied by Frank Sandwell and one other, unnamed person, 11 years ago!!

Cheers,
Ged

Hey Ged,

yes I am using UKFS but it seems all my points dont work, I have checked on route riter and that doesnt show any points stuck

Hi Craig.

This is good news.

Regarding the extension from Westbury to Salisbury. I mentioned this a few years ago over at UKTS. It would be another great extension linking DC6 to Briscard v6 and your Wessex route.

About the points not animating. I seem to recall this was something to do with the Jnode information missing in the W files for the points. ie-

Code:

TrackObj (
 UiD ( 3235 )
 SectionIdx ( 38845 )
 Elevation ( 0 )
 JNodePosn ( -6164 14912 144.468 103.463 -383.975 )
 CollideFlags ( 583 )
 FileName ( ukfs_tlm_25m_5d71.s )
 StaticFlags ( 00200180 )
 Position ( 144.468 103.463 -383.975 )
 QDirection ( 0 0.865802 0 0.500386 )
 VDbId ( 4294967294 )
 StaticDetailLevel ( 0 )
 )


If so, I believe the information to fix this was on a previous Wessex thread on TSSH. Also, I believe TonyHap, was the member who may have rectified or come up with a solution to this problem.

Thanks

Gary

Craig

Did you managed to sort out the sticking points problem?

Gary