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Post  StephenRWells Tue 07 Oct 2014, 9:35 pm

Hi All,

First activity just uploaded - it is a steam stopping service between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley.

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Post  StephenRWells Sat 11 Oct 2014, 3:55 pm

Hi all,

2nd activity just uploaded. It is a DMU stopping service between Glasgow Central and Edinburgh Princes Street. As usual all stock is from the cd.

The Class 101 as supplied on the Cd has an automatic gearbox. As far as I know all Class 101's were fitted with a manual gearbox. When testing this activity I have changed the eng file to have a manual gearbox. This shouldn't affect the performance but adds greater realism especially if driven correctly as outlined in Benedict Todd's 1st GenDMU Soundset.

As a personal preference I have also changed the cabview to DMU 1st Generation Version 3 which not only has the gear lever but the option of using the "Dusk" version more suited to driving in the rain.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 16 Oct 2014, 11:02 am

Hi All,

2 people have reported a problem with my latest activity S - Glasgow Central_ EdinburghPS DMU in that there isn't any ai traffic/loose consists. I can assure everyone that there is plenty of ai so something has gone wrong with the upload. I have done a download and a dummy install using the installer and all the files are present. Route Riter tells me ALL the consists are missing in the SCP activites - a problem I've had before and I don't know how to fix ( it works ok in my main MSTS ).

Has anybody installed and run this activity successfully and, if so, which installation method did you use?
If you've had installation problems and fixed them, how?

Any help with this problem will be gratefully received as I have no idea what has gone wrong. I have used the same upload preparation and upload as usual.

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Post  neanderthal Fri 17 Oct 2014, 8:13 am

Hello again Stephen,further to my PM to you; The DMU does not have a manual gearbox either,don't know if that gives any clues !Regards, Surprised


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Post  StephenRWells Fri 17 Oct 2014, 8:59 am

Hi Roger,

Quite right - the DMU as supplied on the cd does have an automatic gearbox, I changed it to manual as I believe that that is how it should be. However, that affects my copy only and has no effect on anyone else which is why you still have the automatic version.

Which method did you use to install this activity?
I still don't why the ai traffic is missing.

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Post  neanderthal Fri 17 Oct 2014, 10:23 am

Unfortunately the *.exe installer puts the traffic file into a (new) folder called trafffic. Simply move the traffic file into the correct folder, traffic, and you're good to go.

Brace 2011 has said the above is all that's needed,,Hopefully he's correct,though I dont know where to look for this extra file. Regards


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Post  StephenRWells Fri 17 Oct 2014, 11:58 am

Hi Roger,

It appears that I can't spell - I put 3 f s in traffic not 2. I will re upload the file this afternoon and then all should be well. It just shows how careful you have to be.

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 17 Oct 2014, 3:18 pm

Hi all,

Version 2 of S - Glasgow Central_Edinburgh Princes Street DMU has been uploaded with the correct spelling of Traffic in the installer. Apologies to all who tried running this activity without any ai.

Some time ago I said that I intended to amend my early BrisCard Activities to run in the SS version. This could still happen, depending on the success on my latest project. I have decided to make S- Southampton Mail run using Open Rails ( in its present stage of development ) using BrisCard SS. Because the way OR handles engines is different from MSTS this has meant a major change of engines used to maintain the existing timetable and ai traffic. This has also meant changing some of the ai services.
It has been interesting learning that what works in MSTS doesn't in OR. For example, UKTS file 17438 from John Bilton contains 4 Hymeks all of which work well in MSTS but only one in OR. The only difference is the type of brake system. The way the eng file is written means that OR can only successfully use the air braked version - change the "vacuum_single_pipe" entries to "air_single_pipe" and the engine now works as it should.
The other thing to remember is that Richard Fletcher has removed all his models from UKTS which means I can't use them for new uploaded activities for those people who don't have his models - When uploading I only use what is currently available from UKTS, mini-route cd or possibly other "free" sites.

Regards,

Stephen

Thanks also to Gringo00 for spotting my spelling mistake.
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Post  steamnut44 Fri 17 Oct 2014, 10:51 pm

Hi Stephen,

With not being active with MSTS for a while, I decided to go through all the latest uploads on UKTrainsim for the past 18 months, just to catch up on what is newly available. I have now downloaded and installed all your activities for the SCP, into my SCP mini route and copied them over into my MSTS SCP copy. So I have all the activities in both versions of the route.
Enjoyed running the first few that you made last year and I hope to run the rest over the next few weeks. I will be downloading your other activities for all the other routes you have made activities for, but I don't have Briscard V6  and one or two other routes installed at the moment. For all the time I was working on the SCP, I never seemed to find time to run activities, but now I can enjoy doing so. I think it will take me quite a few years to get through all the routes activities, especially Mid East Plus with over a hundred.
As you are aware, I am in the process of making an activity for the SCP, but it is taking me a while, to get to grips with everything, especially getting the timings right. I was thinking of opening up some of your SCP activities in the AE, just to find out, how you achieve your timings etc, for each activity, especially the ones that require plenty of shunting manoeuvers, which should help me to get more idea of how to plan out various shunting patterns.
I am not familiar with the work orders window, or how to use it properly. If you could explain how this works, then maybe I could use it for my activities.


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Post  StephenRWells Sat 18 Oct 2014, 3:20 pm

Hi Geoff,

I tend not to use the work order facility as it it's not strictly necessary for the correct running of the activity. I have occasionally used it in the past when I need a pop up message after a piece of work. One way of learning is trial and error which is what I did, but probably better is to see tutorials are available - there must be some somewhere.

Please feel free to look how my activities work in the AE, remembering that the player train timings will not always be the same as when you actually drive the activity. I normally run the activity noting all useful timing points and then add in the ai. Keeping the player service to time when leaving sidings etc. can also achieved by holding you back with ai or a Blocker.

I still have plenty of activities to drive on other routes - can often make a useful break when the activity you are creating doesn't work the way you wanted.

Please don't hesitate to ask if you need any other help.

Good luck,

Stephen
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Post  steamnut44 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:19 am

Hi Stephen,

Thank you for your information, regarding the work order facility. I tend to use messages to explain where you need to stop, when it involves reversing points. I am familiar with adding AI to the player path, ahead of the player train and adding AI traffic in the opposite direction, but don't understand what a Blocker is or how to use it. Another query, what is an invisible loco used for in an activity, this has me a bit bewildered.

Any help will be appreciated. I have learned by trial and error, as it is sometimes the best approach. There are tutorials on the steam4me site, so I think I will have a browse at them to see if I can learn anything from them.


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Post  StephenRWells Sun 19 Oct 2014, 10:29 am

Hi Geoff,

An invisible loco is exactly what it says!! I use it to create a loco+wagons/coaches consist for an ai service in a siding/station platform which is only there for a specified time. This makes it look just like a loose consist but without the drain on system resources. The Blocker is an invisible loco used as an ai service to block the player/ ai service to force MSTS away from its normal player service priorities. Most of my SCP passenger activities use this at the start to make other services depart first - look at them in the AE to see how it works.

Hope this helps,

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Post  steamnut44 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 11:43 am

Ah! I now see how the invis loco is used, as a static consist in sidings or a station platform, for the duration the player train will be in that area. Makes sense now you have explained what they are used for. I also now understand what a blocker does now.

These never seem to be mentioned in tutorials, all they seem to do is explain how to make up a consist, how to set up a player train and create a path, and how to set up a traffic path for AI traffic. Placing reversing points and waiting times, don't seem to get a mention, nor does placing action events on the path, for activating messages etc.
Ok, they explain the basics, but don't go deep enough to be able to make an activity with shunting manoeuvers, you have to fathom out for yourself, if it involves quite a lot of shunting, pick up's and drop off's. I will have a look how you have inserted the Blocker in one of your activities, so I can delay my own player train if I need to.

I was looking on the Steam4me site and there is one tutorial that explains how to alter the arrival and departure times at stations, something that I was a bit baffled with. Also I have noticed, if you make a long path for your Player train, and don't tick the Stations stop box in the list of stations the train passes through, It does not show the distance in miles, to the next station, or the end of your drivable path. This only shows if you tick any, or the last station box. No stations ticked, doesn't display any mileage in the Station heads up display (F10)
Using a Freight train as the player, where you don't usually stop at stations, is there any other way, where you can get an idea of the distance or mileage you have to travel, to reach the end of your chosen destination.
Sorry to have bombarded you with a lot of questions Stephen, but you may have some of the answers, at least I now know how to use Invis locos and set up a Blocker (invis loco) as a means of holding a player train.


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Post  slipperman12 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:37 pm

Hi Geoff,
The reason you don't find many tutorials about the Invisiwag/Blocker is because, I'm sure, Kuju/Microsoft never even thought of such a thing! It's purely down to the ingenuity of the MSTS community who have developed many work-arounds over the last 13 years Smile It's also helped, no doubt, by the open-ness of MSTS.

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Post  ianmacmillan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 3:44 pm

To get station stops to show with freight trains, one of the consist vehicles must have a PassengerCapacity.
Type (Carriage) have a PassengerCapacity by default.

You can add the line.....

PassengerCapacity ( 1.0 )

to any vehicle.

Most of my brake vans have it.
For locos the best place is the tender file which will force the player to stop for the staff on single lines.

You should tell the player to ignore the stops for freight trains and treat them as passing times.
It's also a good way to slow down the speed merchants.

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Post  neanderthal Sun 19 Oct 2014, 5:05 pm

S - Glasgow Central_Edinburgh Princes Street DMU,Thanks stephen,there certainly is plenty of AI traffic,coming out of Glasgow is packed with it,Regards Neanderthal


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Post  mikeanddi Sun 19 Oct 2014, 11:06 pm

Hi Stephen

Many thanks for the latest activities for Scottish Capitals Plus.

They are set in my favourite railway time - late steam / early diesel era.

I have completed the slow DMU activity in MSTS  and found it very enjoyable, although I never mastered the DMU brakes.

I am attempting to run all new activities in Open Rails with varying degrees of success. Many crash, but the improvement in graphics over MSTS makes it worthwhile to try.

I am very grateful to you, and the other remaining activity writers, who are helping to keep MSTS alive, but hope that, sometime in the future, we will be able to enjoy these fully in Open Rails.

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Post  StephenRWells Mon 20 Oct 2014, 9:28 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the favourable comments, yes , those DMU brakes do take some mastering, but it adds to the challenge of successfully completing the activity.

My experiment with converting S - Southampton Mail written for the original BrisCard route to run with OR on the SS version is progressing well. As it stood it wouldn't work with the SS version due to signalling changes. Hopefully when complete it will run in both MSTS and OR using BrisCard SS.

I will probably try to make all future activities run using both simulators. OR is the way forward but I want to keep using MSTS as well for as long as possible.

Thanks again,

Stephen
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Post  steamnut44 Mon 20 Oct 2014, 9:42 am

slipperman12 wrote:Hi Geoff,
The reason you don't find many tutorials about the Invisiwag/Blocker is because, I'm sure, Kuju/Microsoft never even thought of such a thing!  It's purely down to the ingenuity of the MSTS community who have developed many work-arounds over the last 13 years Smile  It's also helped, no doubt, by the open-ness of MSTS.

Cheers,
Ged

Yes I can see your point there Ged,  doh!

Thank you for that information Ian, I will bear that in mind. It's surprising what you can do with the AE when you know how. It is the same with the RE, there are lots of hidden extras, that you find out you can do, as I discovered when working on the SCP.


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Post  dforrest Mon 20 Oct 2014, 12:58 pm

Stephen, nothing seems to be said in this thread about your "Glasgow Queen Street_Edinburgh Waverley Steam Slow" activity. I have completed the activity and it is up to you normal high standard. Thank you.


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Post  StephenRWells Sat 01 Nov 2014, 9:29 pm

Hi all,

I have finally finished converting S - Southampton Mail to run using the BrisCard SS version with Open Rails. This proved more challenging than I anticipated which is why it has taken so long. As stated in one of my earlier posts I have had to remove all stock which is either no longer available at UKTS or doesn't work with OR. It is interesting to note that using OR some consists that are undriveable actually work when used as ai, whereas it is the other way round for others!! Because of the way that trains behave differently with OR than with MSTS this activity will now only work with OR ( it can easily be altered to run in both but the timings will be all wrong ). The activity now takes just under 3 hours instead of the original 2.5. During testing I discovered that soon after Briton Ferry it was impossible to resume after a save resulting in virtually the whole activity having to be run in one sitting and without any mistakes. I have, therefore, decided not to upload this activity through UKTS; also there isn't an Open Rails Simulator in the list.

Provided I am not breaking any rules here or on UKTS if anyone wishes to try this activity they can send me a PM with their name and email address and I will send them a copy complete with necessary stock information etc.

Will one of the moderators please confirm that this distribution method is allowed - no copies will be sent until this is confirmed.

Future activities, I hope, will run using both MSTS and OR.

Finally, thanks to all those who have sent comments on my previous activities, these are always appreciated.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  Markh5682 Sun 02 Nov 2014, 12:06 am

Hi Stephen.

As long as you are distributing your own work only, I don't see any problem with it, you own the copyright and can give it to whoever you like. OK

A few files have been distributed already on here by the authors, or with full permission from the author.


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Post  steamnut44 Sun 02 Nov 2014, 11:08 am

Yes Mark is right Stephen. It is your own work and you can distribute it to whom you like as long as it's free and for no financial gain (because of the content it uses).
I sent copies of the SCP route out on disc, when building the route, so that it could be tested.
I won't require a copy because I don't use Open Rails yet. I am waiting for the first proper release of OR before I take the plunge. Quite happy with MSTS & bin patch for the time being.


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Post  StephenRWells Thu 06 Nov 2014, 9:54 pm

Hi All,

Following on from my partial success in modifying an existing activity running in BrisCard Original version to run specifically in Open Rails using the BrisCard SS version I have now done the same with S - Coal to Aberthaw. With the timing changes necessary because of the different way OR works this new version now works well and can be successfully resumed from saves. To obtain suitable power output I have had to double head some services including the player consist - the 2 Class 37's make an awesome sound under full power! I haven't yet decided whether this activity will be uploaded or not. If anyone fancies trying it in the meantime all they have to do is pm me with their email address and I'll send them a copy.

I am currently altering the same original activity to run using the Briscard SS version but using steam power throughout. I have encountered a few problems with sticking signals but hopefully these will quickly be resolved. At the moment OR can't handle GWR brakes very well so this activity is definitely only sutable for MSTS. Those who can or wish to presumably can alter the brakes to make them work with OR. I can't so will leave well alone.

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Post  slipperman12 Thu 06 Nov 2014, 10:17 pm

Hi Stephen,
I am in the process of preparing a bug report for Open Rails regarding the brakes on steam locos of GWR origin, The problem being that the small injector hasn't been coded into OR, or if it has, the Player doesn't have access to it. I've found that, after about 5 minutes, the brakes do release!

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 14 Nov 2014, 3:19 pm

Hi All,

Firstly, thanks to Ged for preparing and submitting the Bug report for the GWR brakes which has now been corrected in one of the daily updates ( I will wait for the weekly update before trying it myself ).

No-one appears to have noticed my error with virtually all of my previous BriscardSS version activities. I had used the wrong download number for the BR_WR_ BSETS. My ones I came from the BalaHub Route but I not from UKTS and for some reason I thought that they came from a different set of GWR Coaches. I have now downloaded these coaches to confirm that they are both the same. To me, as an activity writer, it reinforces the need for stock included with a route to be prefixed with something to differentiate it from that obtained elsewhere. I am surprised that none of our sharp eyed members hadn't spotted my mistake and that no-one has commented on the missing stock, etc. These activities will now be re-uploaded with the correct download number added. This is the only change so those who have successfully run them needn't download them again.

I have now finished creating the steam version of S - Coal to Aberthaw using the SS version and this will now be uploaded. As soon as I've finished the bits and pieces for the Open Rails Diesel version this will also be uploaded. The runs well using the current experimental version and I'm hoping that the way I've changed things shouldn't be affected by future versions. For me this is an experiment so I will wait to see what happens in the future before doing anymore activities specifically for OR - it will also be easier when a fully functional Activity Editor is produced.

Regards,

Stephen

PS. When I upload the Open Rails version should I enter it as MSTS or Open Rails?


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Post  slipperman12 Fri 14 Nov 2014, 4:21 pm

Hi Stephen,
Sorry, but up to now I have to admit that I haven't run any of your BC-SS activities, although I have downloaded them.  I seem to have been pretty busy over the last few months!!

Regarding your question about entering your new act as MSTS or ORTS, I think the answer is another question!  Will it run, as you expect, with MSTS or is it written to run only under Open Rails?  If the latter, then I suggest it should be entered as ORTS.  If it runs equally well under both, the choice is yours, but I suggest MSTS but with a prominent note that it runs under Open Rails.

Cheers,
Ged

Edit : I didn't know the GWR brakes problem had been solved! I've only had an email from one of the team (Dennis A T) suggesting a work-around, but if it has been corrected, well done to them, yet again!!

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 14 Nov 2014, 5:42 pm

Hi Ged,

Sorry, I misread the topic on UKTS where the FA for diminishing coal seems to have been resolved.
As to whether to upload as MSTS or OR I am about to do what I haven't yet done and that is to run it using MSTS - I suspect it might not due to possible timing issues.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  StephenRWells Fri 14 Nov 2014, 10:54 pm

Hi All,

Sad to say that I failed to complete the OR version using MSTS - an ai train got stuck at a red signal at Grangetown. Until then all had gone fairly well so this will be uploaded as an OR Activity. I did also find that this train was much easier to drive with OR than with MSTS - the physics as well as the graphics are much superior as you would expect and I'm sure will get even better as time goes on. In the meantime I shall continue to create activities and drive others both with MSTS.

Regards,

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Post  steamnut44 Sat 15 Nov 2014, 10:37 am

Thank you for the info Stephen. I think I will be sticking with MSTS for the time being, as some of my routes or stock, don't seem to run as well under OR. I am prepared to wait until OR has been developed a lot further, before trying it again. Meantime, I have uninstalled OR and will download it again when the first proper version is ready.


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Post  StephenRWells Tue 25 Nov 2014, 9:05 pm

Hi All,

Just when you think all is ready for final checks before uploading I find a major problem. The last 3 activities I've made all use several Class 37's which are no longer available over on UKTS. So I've spent most of today checking what 37's are still available, downloading and installing them. As the activities are set in the early Diesel days I've restricted myself to those in BR Blue and between 37001 and 37100 plus a couple of higher ones. This now gives me choice of 20 plus 2 that are duplicated - this should be enough. Obviously all new activity uploads have to contain currently available stock but my earlier uploaded activities will stay as they are with "missing stock" messages.

On a positive note the activity mentioned in an earlier post which wouldn't run from a valid save now works as the OR team have fixed the offending bug. This will now be uploaded as soon as the Class37 issue has been fixed and will give 3 activities for the BrisCard SS Route specifically set up to run with OR.

Regards,

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 04 Dec 2014, 3:24 pm

Hi All,

Finally the three activities have been finished and uploaded. Having changed all the locos to those that are still available at UKTS, new consists had to be made, checked and re-checked to ensure nothing had slipped through. One problem which quickly arose was to find a combination of double headed locos that had easily operated and controllable brakes that worked well using OR. Having done that I then found that although all the Class 37's had very similar power outputs this was enough to upset various timings throughout all three activities. This has taken a lot of time to check, running each activity until it runs to my satisfaction - at the moment! As new updates of OR come out this could well affect future running of these activities.

The activities are:- S _ SS OR AberthawPS_ Tower Colliery
S - SS OR Coal to Aberthaw
S - SS OR Southampton Mail

These have to be installed into MSTS BrisCard SS version and then run with Open Rails
S - SS OR Southampton Mail WILL NOT run with MSTS, the other two might with varying degrees of success

These are my last activities for the time being. Christmas is nearly here and I wish to enjoy it without the problems of activity creation on my mind.
There will be more next year and possibly something different as well.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  mikehendle Thu 04 Dec 2014, 6:54 pm

Hi Stephen,

Many thanks for the activities you have written over the year.
Wishing You a Very Happy Christmas

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Post  mikeanddi Sat 06 Dec 2014, 9:40 pm

Hi Stephen

I have just successfully completed your Aberthaw Power Station to Tower Colliery activity in Open Rails.

What a treat!

Great route, great stock, great sounds and the joy of full screen Open Rails graphics.

I'm looking forward to trying out your other two Open Rails activities.

Thanks for your work on these, and your other activities, and of course to the Open Rails team, route and stock builders.

Have a good Christmas rest - you deserve it.

Regards
Mike

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 09 Jan 2015, 10:00 am

Hi All,

Thank you to all those who have posted comments for the various activities I've created during the past year, they are much appreciated.

As I said in my last post I'm taking a break from activity creation at the moment to concentrate on other things - with new/improved routes now and soon to be available it is nice to drive other routes and activities. These come with so many activities that I don't intend to add to them at the moment, if at all. I've also installed the London, Southend and Tilbury Route which is another excellent route. It has been interesting to compare how the track work out of Liverpool Street has changed in years since the LTS era and the Greater Eastern era.

As some of you will have noticed I've embarked on a different project recently. With Kenji Kimura's permission I am creating Night and Dusk versions of his Cabviews - for more information and updates please see the Kenji Kimura Cabview topic.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  StephenRWells Tue 31 Mar 2015, 10:41 pm

Hi All,

Since I finished updating Kenji Kimura's Cabviews I have, at Niall Gray's request started creating a few activities for his Glasgow to Carlisle V4 Route. The first two have now been uploaded.

File ID: 34087 Name:S - Gretna_Carlisle is a short "coffee break" passenger activity between Gretna and Carlisle and then running ecs into Kingmoor Yard.
File ID: 34088 Name:S - Carlisle_Malcolm Elderslie Freight Terminal is a much longer freight activity complete with change of traction.

Both of these can be driven in both MSTS and OR provided the instructions are followed.
Others will follow but not as quickly as some of my others did as I intend to spend more time driving than I have in the past. With this in mind I have already installed several more British routes and am looking forward to trying them. I also have a lot of unused activities for previously installed routes. Then there are the expected new routes as and when they become available.

Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy my latest two offerings,

Stephen
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Post  rufuskins Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:25 am

Thank you for these activities.


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Post  StephenRWells Sun 05 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm

Hi All,

Over on UKTS it was pointed out that with S - Carlisle_Malcolm Elderslie Freight Terminal I'd installed the Consists into the wrong location. This has now been corrected with a new version uploaded. Apologies to all who have tried unsuccessfully to run this activity.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  slipperman12 Sun 05 Apr 2015, 10:54 pm

Hi Stephen,
Many thanks Smile
The strange thing was that 11 consists were in the correct place!!
Of course, I don't know the procedure you use to set up that type of installer Smile

Cheers,
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Post  StephenRWells Mon 06 Apr 2015, 9:55 am

Hi Ged,

Even more strange as that set of consists were those for S - Gretna_Carlisle!! I must have had a "Senior" moment when preparing the upload - I used the same procedure as I did when uploading all the SCP activities.

Hopefully all is now well - the amended upload is now available so time to put the hard hat on in readiness for anything else I've missed!

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  StephenRWells Thu 30 Apr 2015, 9:58 pm

Hi All,

It doesn't seem a month since I completed the last 2 activities. During this time I have spent a lot of time exploring other British Branch Lines and doing other things.

File ID: 34211 Name:S - Winter Mail for the Glasgow to Carlisle V4 Route has now been uploaded. This is a straightforward run from Shieldmuir RMT as far as Carlisle using an 8car Class 325 Postal EMU. It can be driven using both MSTS and OR with equal success and very little time variation.

What comes next I don't know; the number of unused Thames Trent V2 activities is rapidly growing by the day as well as those outstanding from other routes.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  StephenRWells Fri 22 May 2015, 10:54 am

Hi All,

This time only 3 weeks and 2 more activities for the Glasgow to Carlisle Route V4, 1 freight and 1 passenger.

File ID: 34290 Name:S - Cardross Track Repairs
File ID: 34291 Name:S - Glasgow_Crosshill_Newton Return

Both of these can driven using MSTS an OR with equal success. There are slight time variations as to where different ai services are seen but this should not affect the overall success of the activity.

S - Cardross Track Repairs involves a lot of coupling and uncoupling and some tight reverse points to keep you're mind on the activity. Changing driving cab ends is needed several times but I have left the number of times and actual places up to you. Please read the briefing carefully to get get the best out of it.

S - Glasgow_Crosshill_Newton Return is a straightforward stopping service from Glasgow to Newton and back. Niall Gray has said elsewhere that these units are overpowered in MSTS and when the new versions are available the power output will be better. In view of this the timetable has been created using OR timings to reflect a more realistic performance. The activity works well with both simulators and arrival back at Glasgow is at the same time!

Now it's over to you to prove me right or wrong.

I'm not sure what's coming next - I do have one for the Somerset and Dorset which is virtually complete but I'm not sure whether it will be uploaded.

Regards,

Stephen


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Post  rufuskins Fri 22 May 2015, 12:12 pm

OK


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Post  StephenRWells Thu 11 Jun 2015, 11:53 am

Hi All,

The activity for the S & D route is virtually finished as I said in my last post but as it still requires a few tweaks to make it work properly it is unlikely to be uploaded in the near future. There are also 2 other considerations 1:- As it is based on one of Clive Heard's activities I will have to have his permission first and 2:- where I am going with my trainsimming - see below.

I have now decided that as far as possible I will be using Open Rails for running activities and any new ones will be designed accordingly. The stage that OR has now reached makes it much better than MSTS. I have been experimenting with the ai shunting mode which is very impressive; as an example a freight train pulls into a through siding, uncouples some of the wagons, shunts the rest into another siding and then proceeds light engine into the headshunt. Although the MSTS Activity Editor still has to be used to create these operations it cannot always test how it works so I have to rely on trial and error for timings, etc. Reading the OR Manual there are a lot of other enhancements that are or will be possible to make things more like real life. Along with others I have found that what MSTS accepts OR doesn't so I shall have to modify eng, wag and cvf files etc as I go. This often affects how things work ( or don't ) in MSTS which is another reason for switching to OR.

As I go I will be modifying my present activities to run as originally intended, or better, with OR. Whether these will be uploaded I don't yet know. There is no timescale for this but if If I get any specific requests then I'll see what I can do.

For me, yes, MSTS is on the way out but it has provided us all with a wealth of routes, rolling stock, activities, knowledge, assistance and advice when needed, all freely given and gratefully received. Most MSTS content can used with OR so this is a valuable asset which will be retained. I hope that this will continue long into the future. I will continue to offer what help I can with both simulators when I can.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  mikeanddi Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:18 pm

Hi Stephen

I am very pleased to hear that you will be adapting some of your activities to run in Open Rails.

I have reached the stage where, apart from testing activities, I do not use MSTS at all.

The superior graphics and frame rates in Open Rails make for a totally different experience.  I can now run activities with no stuttering, and no fear of crashing due to tiles loading, etc.

I hope that you will find a way to release the S & D activity. I have not run this route for a while, but it is a superb route, for which many excellent activities were available. I would love to revisit this with an Open Rails compatible activity.

Kind regards
Mike

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Post  StephenRWells Tue 23 Jun 2015, 9:20 pm

Hi Mike and All,

I have finished the activity for the Somerset and Dorset Route. I have made it so that it will only work with OR as it also uses the extended ai shunting function. Others have tried to contact Clive Heard during the last month without any success so even though I don't have his express permission to upload a modified version of one of his activities, I feel that as it bears very little resemblance to his original I have uploaded it this evening. Within the uploaded folder there is an acknowledgement of his work and a statement that if the in future he objects to my version then it will be removed from UKTS until the situation is resolved.

The activity is File ID: 34432 Name:S - Burnham to Templecombe

This is a run from Highbridge to Burnham on Sea and then on to Templecombe stopping at all stations.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  35005CP Tue 23 Jun 2015, 11:30 pm

Thanks Stephen. I look forward to running the Activity in OR and seeing how it compares in MSTS?

Cheers

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Post  StephenRWells Wed 24 Jun 2015, 10:32 am

Hi Andy,

There will be no comparison as it is definitely OR only. No doubt there will be those who will try it in MSTS because they fail to read the instructions - it fails after approx. 2 minutes. however, I hope that you enjoy it in OR.

Regards,

Stephen
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Post  andrew moody Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:06 pm

StephenRWells wrote:

There will be no comparison as it is definitely OR only. No doubt there will be those who will try it in MSTS because they fail to read the instructions - it fails after approx. 2 minutes.
Well that excludes me then Stephen!
First of all I sincerley hope that you will reconsider and continue to write your fantastic acts for MSTS.
For the minority of people like me that are not computer savy, OR looks at this stage very daunting, and has many "Faults and Failures"
This version 1.0 is also very elusive as it does not appear to exist in the UKTS file library and certainly not in the Open rails section. Is there a download "Link" somewhere?
or a file ID ?
Cheers
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Post  dforrest Wed 24 Jun 2015, 1:21 pm

Andy, Open Rails 1.0 is available here:

http://www.openrails.org/download/program/

Click on "Download the installer".


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