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Post  slipperman12 Thu 26 Sep 2019, 9:37 am

HI Mike & Stephen,
For some reason, UKTS_28118 has been removed from the library. I do have it but don't know if I'm permitted to pass it on to you Sad

Cheers,
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Post  StephenRWells Thu 26 Sep 2019, 11:52 am

Hi Ged and Mike,

Sorry, I wasn't aware that these excellent coaches had been removed from the UKTS Library. Looking at the included readmes passing them on to others isn't allowed without express permission. I would ask the author myself to pass them on but I'm not very tactful in these matters! One solution is for me to upload a patch using alternative coaches which are still available for those who don't have the UKTS_28118 file. What do you think?

On another matter a few years ago, if you remember, I produced, with Kenji Kimuru's permission new versions of his cabviews. The Class 319 and 442's have a very basically similar front but have never had specific cabviews. I have taken the Class 455 cabview and modified the dials and warning lights to give two slightly different cabviews for each. They are not a representation of the real ones but something which could be possible. Do you think that Kenji's original permission would include my uploading these two new ones?

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Post  slipperman12 Thu 26 Sep 2019, 4:33 pm

Hi Stephen,
I'll see if I can contact the author of  UKTS_28118

Regarding the Kenji cabviews, I'm sure the permission we received covered what you are proposing.  This is the email I received 23 Nov 2014 :

Good morning. Ged.

I will give permission, You and your friends create the CVF of all my
CABVEWS that are posted on the UKTS.
It also permitted you to use by modifying the part of CABVIEWS.
Please create a better CABVIEWS.
And, keep writing my copyright.

Kenji Kimura
Obviously English isn't his native language!  The last sentence was is response to my statement that he would be credited as the originator of any modified/new cabviews based on his originals.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 26 Sep 2019, 5:03 pm

Hi Ged,

Thanks for clarifying his original email. I still have that email as well ( you forwarded it to me ). Once I've done some final checks I will upload them, probably at the TSSH site first.

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Post  marcus1940 Thu 26 Sep 2019, 7:33 pm

Hi Stephen,

I thought in the meantime I would use UKTS 20997 which will suffice for the interim period. Hopefully it won't screw up the timings of the activity.

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Post  slipperman12 Thu 26 Sep 2019, 8:19 pm

Hi Stephen,
Richard Fletcher has given his permission for the contents of UKTS_28118 to be included in the upload of your activity/ies.  I appreciate that you've already uploaded them, so maybe you could upload patches?
This is my UKTS PM to Richard and his reply :
Hi Richard,
At some time, you removed the above archive from the library.
A member of the Community has created several activities, at least one of which uses the coaches from that archive. He was unaware it had been removed. Would you please give your permission for the files from that archive to be included within the activities uploads?

Thank you for your consideration,
Regards,
Ged
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Hi Ged,

That's no problem,

Richard

The original author of the coaches has already given permission for repaints, so I don't think it's necessary to seek his permission to re-use Richard's reskins.

Cheers,
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Post  StephenRWells Fri 27 Sep 2019, 10:28 am

Hi Mark, Ged and All,

Mark:-  
Hi Stephen,

I thought in the meantime I would use UKTS 20997 which will suffice for the interim period. Hopefully it won't screw up the timings of the activity.

Regards

Mike
This shouldn't cause any problems but see below.

Ged:-  Thank you for contacting Richard and obtaining his permission for me to include his Postal coaches in this and in the future.

I have now uploaded a new version of S - Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour2 which now contains the missing coaches for those who need them.

Regards,

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Post  marcus1940 Fri 27 Sep 2019, 6:55 pm

Thanks Ged and Stephen for the quick update. Downloading as I type !!

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Post  StephenRWells Sat 20 Jun 2020, 4:51 pm

Hi All,

I have just uploaded my first activity for Clive Heard's Plymouth to Penzance Route to the TSSH Download site.

The activity is S - Helston_Gwinear Road Return and is for Open Rails only.

Hopefully more will follow in due course.

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Post  dforrest Sat 20 Jun 2020, 6:08 pm

StephenRWells wrote:Hi All,

I have just uploaded my first activity for Clive Heard's Plymouth to Penzance Route to the TSSH Download site.

The activity is S - Helston_Gwinear Road Return and is for Open Rails only.

Hopefully more will follow in due course.

Regards,

Stephen

On the download site page, clicking on this new activity does not download it (you older activities can be clicked on and downloaded).


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Post  StephenRWells Sat 20 Jun 2020, 6:44 pm

Hi David,

Many apologies to you and anyone else who has tried to download this activity.
This will now have to wait until tomorrow before I can have a look at correcting this error.

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Post  StephenRWells Sun 21 Jun 2020, 10:45 am

Hi All,

Hopefully problem solved. I re-uploaded the activity, successfully downloaded and unzipped it.

Any further problems or comments please let me know.

Enjoy,

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Post  mikeanddi Wed 24 Jun 2020, 8:38 pm

Hi Stephen

Thanks for uploading the S - Helston_Gwinear Road Return activity for Clive's lovely route.

I completed this with no problems. It was an enjoyable and relaxing run through a very scenic part of this outstanding route.

Any future activities would be most appreciated.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 25 Jun 2020, 10:38 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your positive comments.

There will be more activities, some of which will be much harder but hopefully just as enjoyable.

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Post  StephenRWells Wed 01 Jul 2020, 11:33 am

Hi All,

Today I have now uploaded S - Helston Gwinear Road Return to UKTS as File ID: 39807 and approved
It is the same as that already uploaded to TSSH for Open Rails only.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 02 Jul 2020, 10:30 am

Hi All,

My first upload for this route S - Helston_Gwinear Road Return contained a timetable error which I have now corrected. My thanks go to Smecty for pointing this out to me.

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 03 Jul 2020, 4:41 pm

Hi All,

My next activity is S - Chasewater_Newquay

UKTS File ID: 39823

Any problems/comments please let me know.

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Post  StephenRWells Sat 04 Jul 2020, 10:22 am

Hi All,

It has been pointed out to me that Chasewater is in Staffordshire. The correct spelling is Chacewater as I should well know having grown up in Cornwall and been past Helston Railway Station ( on the bus ) on my way to school.

Incidentally, at that period the buses were operated by Western National and were green not red as Clive has used.

I will try to improve my spelling in the future.

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Post  brace_2011 Sat 04 Jul 2020, 2:50 pm

I really enjoyed your last activity  -  Helston to Gwinear Road and return.

I am sure this one will be equally entertaining  -  any chance of uploading it here?

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Post  StephenRWells Mon 06 Jul 2020, 3:27 pm

Hi all,

S - Chacewater_Newquay

I will be uploading a new version with the correct spelling so I suggest that you remove the original activity before installing the new version. Any future activities which may include these services/paths etc. will also use the correct correct spelling.

Regards,

Stephen

Edit: This has now been done


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Post  StephenRWells Tue 07 Jul 2020, 11:38 am

Hi All,

S - Chacewater_Newquay

The correct spelling version has now been re-uploaded - yesterday's attempt failed after an error on my part.

File Id is UKTS: 39834

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Post  StephenRWells Wed 08 Jul 2020, 10:57 am

Hi All,

S - Chacewater_Newquay

This has now also been uploaded to TSSHonline file hosting site.

As usual, any comments etc. welcome.

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Post  brace_2011 Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:42 pm

Hi Stephen

Thanks for uploading here  -  I am one of those who can't get into UKTS with Firefox  -  looks like I will have to start using an additional browser.

Although I haven't yet completed the activity it does look both interesting and entertaining.  I have a couple of questions, if I may.  I really like what you have done with OR weather.  It is very effective.  Did you create the OR act file manually or with TSRE5 (or some other way)?

Secondly, I am intrigued by your instruction to "Please leave stations at the timetable time.".  Mainly because I can't.  The loading time is so long at the first few stations that it means that loading doesn't complete before the timetabled leaving time.  The result is that I seem to be getting later and later with each station stop.  This is why I haven't yet completed the activity  -  I have been doing some experimenting, as follows.

I notice that each platform (in the *.tdb and the *.tit file has a definition PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 ).  My testing suggests that passenger loading time is a function of PlatformNumPassengersWaiting and the number of carriages in the consist.  So with PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 ) and 3 coaches there are 6.6 passengers to load per coach, each seemingly allowed 10 seconds so loading time is 66 seconds.   Adding a further coach to the consist means 5 passengers per coach, so 50 seconds in total  -  and that's what happens in game.

It appears that PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 ) is the MSTSRE default value, which explains where it comes from.  Compared with most platforms in say Dorset Coast the value 20 looks to be on the large side.  I have therefore altered each occurrence in the two route files to PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 10 ) and certainly loading times at the first few station stops are withing the timetabled period.  

I can't think that there is any downside to this editing since trains will still leave at the later of the timetabled departure or loading/unloading time.  Searching the internet indicates that some commentators suggest that the PlatformMinWaitingTime definition has an impact  -  but I haven't managed to find any effect yet.

Do you (or anyone else) have any thoughts on this?

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 10 Jul 2020, 5:29 pm

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your thoughts and observations.

The weather changes are initiated using the MSTS activity editor either by a time event or a location event - my preference is the latter. The actual changes are made using Open Rails functions, however, if the activity is modified with the MSTS editor then the weather changes are lost. The way round this is to create an OpenRails folder within the main Activity Folder which only Open Rails can read.

I agree that a lot of the station passenger loading times are too long and can be altered in the way that you suggest. I have also found that with Open Rails the station stop times will also vary as to where the train has stopped in the platform ( if you over/under shoot the platform extra time is allowed for the passengers to access the platform area ) thus complicating timings even further. By sticking to the timetabled departure times rather than the loading time you can still keep to the timetable, sometimes necessary to meet/pass trains at the correct time and location later in the activity. You can easily leave at my stated departure times - simply release the brakes and open the throttle and away you go!
As far as I know the default station loading times are set by the route builder.

Please try again just using my timings and let me know how you get on, I have allowed a bit of leeway.

Regards,

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Post  brace_2011 Sat 11 Jul 2020, 11:20 am

Hi Stephen

Thanks for your reply.  First, the OR weather additions.  I presume you add your (location or time) events in MSTSAE, with DisplayMessage ( "Increase cloud, reduce visibility." ) being used to help remind you of the OR weather changes you want to incorporate at that location/time.  The message won't show because it is suppressed by the entry ORTSContinue ( 0 ).  You then add manually, in an editor, the ORTSWeatherChange ( ... ) block to deliver the changes in game.  I guess your method then involves the whole event block being cut from the main *.act file and pasted into a new *.act file in an Openrails folder.  Am I right?  Very effective.

As regards the station time, you are, of course, right that one can leave the station before the passenger loading is complete.  I should have written "Mainly because I can't  -  without creating more passenger complaints than the old Northern franchise used to get".  I think I have read somewhere that the station stop time can be lengthened in game depending on where the train has stopped in the platform, and the delay is dependent on how many coaches are within the bounds of the platform as defined in the route.  I also believe that the default station loading times are set by the route builder, but in the absence of the route builder's instructions to the contrary the MSTS defaults to PlatformMinWaitingTime (180) and PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 ).  I might experiment further at some stage, but given that this is the first occasion that I have encountered this issue it isn't exactly a priority.  Someone else may already have looked into it, in which case please feel free to add your findings.

For the time being I will stick with my altered *.tdb and the *.tit files and see how I get on.  I will come back when I have completed the activity.

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Post  StephenRWells Sat 11 Jul 2020, 12:00 pm

Hi Martin,

You are quite right about the weather changes, the trick is to keep the actual changes fairly realistic especially the amount of cloud cover and level of visibility. Sudden downpours are possible but maybe not desirable. One of the interesting side effects is how the trains adhesion is affected as well provide that this option is ticked in the Options box. As far as I know thunder storms are not yet possible - this could be very dramatic!

Incidentally my preferred text editor is Context as it gives line numbers and the ability to have several files open at the same time, amongst other things.

Regards,

Stephen


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Post  brace_2011 Sun 12 Jul 2020, 10:44 am

Hi Stephen

I am reverting to your method, and altering the PlatformNumPassengersWaiting back to ( 20 ). Pondering this last evening I reckon that a change to (10) will possibly impact the AI, depending on how they are defined. This will likely lead to (some) AI running increasingly early so potentially messing up meeting points etc. between player and AI. Certainly (all) activities will be unlikely to run as their authors intended.

I have Context, but I have been using Notepad++ for donkeys' years and familiarity makes it so much easier for me to use. It has the features you mention, plus a really nice Hex editor plug-in that I get quite a lot of use out of.

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Post  mikeanddi Sun 12 Jul 2020, 8:15 pm

Hi Stephen

I have successfully completed the original Chasewater to Newquay activity, and it was most enjoyable, with some formidable gradients to cope with.

As suggested, I left most of the stations before loading had completed in order to stick to the timetable.

There was one anomaly towards the end, when the "S - D1004 + 8choc" consist appeared in the sim without D1004!

I do appear to have a shape file for this engine, so I wonder if this has anything to do with Clive's modified Open Rails engine file, which has a wagon shape of "viewpoint.s".

Many thanks for the activity.

Kind regards
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Post  StephenRWells Mon 13 Jul 2020, 11:30 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I note from your activity title that you are using the original version with the incorrect spelling "Chasewater" . I would strongly advise that you delete this version and install the one with the correct spelling "Chacewater". This one has all the Service, Path and Traffic names also corrected. It also means that any possible future services etc. will also use this correct spelling.

I don't know what your problem is with D1004, I have checked my original download and everything is right. Have you checked the OpenRails Log for any help? If there was a problem at my end then I wouldn't have used D1004. My aim with these activities is to use the route supplied engines as the player engine when possible even if the performance isn't as good as I would have expected.

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Post  mikeanddi Mon 13 Jul 2020, 3:49 pm

Hi Stephen

The Open Rails log includes the following -

Warning: C:\Mini Routes\Combined Routes\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\CML_Class42_D10XX\CML_D1004.eng references non-existent shape C:\Mini Routes\Combined Routes\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\CML_Class42_D10XX\viewpoint.s

If I change the Open Rails engine file to reference "CML_D1004.s", and change the size etc to the same as the MSTS engine file, the loco shows correctly as AI in the activity.

There is a further error report in the log as follows -

Warning: C:\Mini Routes\Combined Routes\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\CML_Class42_D10XX\CML_D1004.eng locomotive's CabView references non-existent Hellifield01.cvf

Obviously, this has no effect on the activity, but strangely, I can see no mention of Hellifield01.cvf in the engine file.

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Post  StephenRWells Mon 13 Jul 2020, 4:29 pm

Hi Mike,

That is very odd!!!

My feeling is that somehow your C:\Mini Routes\Combined Routes\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\ has got corrupted as my D1004 has no references to CML_Class42_D10XX\viewpoint.s and Hellifield01.cvf.

As you said Hellifield01.cvf has no effect on the activity but it will if you try and drive it.

Have you had any other problems with your set up as it looks a bit strange to me?

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Post  mikeanddi Mon 13 Jul 2020, 4:51 pm

Hi Stephen

I have re-downloaded UKTS 39390 and the Open Rails engine files for the Class 42 are completely different to the ones installed on my system.

I have, therefore, replaced these, but I at a loss as to how I ended up with the erroneous files in the first place. All good now though.

I have also deleted the original activity files and installed "Chacewater".

Thanks for your suggestions.

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Post  StephenRWells Mon 13 Jul 2020, 6:20 pm

Hi Mike,

I'm glad that you have got it all sorted.

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Post  brace_2011 Wed 15 Jul 2020, 7:22 pm

Hi Stephen

I have now completed the activity, and it is most enjoyable. I especially liked the touch at the end when the Class 52 runs round its train - nice.

My only issue is that when I used to visit Newquay in the 60s and 70s to go surfing, I can't recall it ever raining. The weather was always good when I was younger - or maybe that's just how it seems now.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 16 Jul 2020, 11:46 am

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I can assure you that it does rain in Cornwall - frequently, but maybe not as much on Newquay's lovely beaches in the summer.

When I grew up near Helston in the sixties we had a saying about the China Clay Spoil Heaps ( otherwise known as "Egypt" ) :-
If you can see them it's going to rain and if you can't it is raining!!!!!

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Post  StephenRWells Wed 22 Jul 2020, 6:03 pm

Hi All,

I've just uploaded my latest activity S - Penzance_St. Ives Return to both TSSHuploads and UKTS.

Enjoy ( hopefully without any errors )

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Post  marcus1940 Wed 22 Jul 2020, 8:07 pm

Hi Stephen,

The S - Penzance_St. Ives Return activity you have just uploaded here has only a .jpg file in it!!!!!!!!!

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 23 Jul 2020, 10:09 am

Hi All,

OOOOOOOOOOPS

Apologies for the incomplete upload, this has now been corrected both here at TSSHuploads and at UKTS where it is waiting for approval.

Regards,

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Post  mikeanddi Thu 23 Jul 2020, 8:53 pm

Hi Stephen

Thanks for the Penzance to St Ives and return activity.

I downloaded, installed and completed this with no problems.

It was a scenic delight from start to finish, with the early morning sun complimenting the excellent scenery of the route. Absolutely breathtaking at times!

Great to see all those Westerns and Warships, which brought back happy memories of holidays in the West Country many years ago, and nice to have time for a quick visit to the engine shed at the end.

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 24 Jul 2020, 11:05 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your kind comments. I agree that the scenery is superb especially with the early morning light effects. I love those lamposts at Penzance - the best anywhere!

Hopefully there will be more activities soon, I've a few that I'm working on at the moment including a tricky freight to keep you all on your toes.

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Post  dforrest Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:50 pm

An chance of more steam powered activities?

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 24 Jul 2020, 4:10 pm

Hi David,

Sorry, not at the moment, I'm only doing Diesel for Plymouth to Penzance plus diesel and electric for Dorset Coast. There is a slight possibility that I might return to steam in the long term future. I'm quite happy for you to substitute steam for my diesel activities either for your own use or to upload for others to also enjoy.

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Post  StephenRWells Thu 30 Jul 2020, 3:14 pm

Hi All,

My latest activity S - CarbeanSdg_CarnePointWharvesEast is available at TSSHuploads. It has not yet been uploaded to UKTS as my last one is still waiting approval as are I guess other items from others. Hopefully, when Matt is able to, the situation will be rectified.

This activity is a freight one which involves a lot of coupling\uncoupling plus engine changes. Please follow the briefing instructions carefully to reach a successful conclusion. At the end there is a possibility of a minutes trainspotting, don't end the activity and allow it to continue.

Remember, like my previous ones it is for Open Rails only.

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Post  StephenRWells Fri 31 Jul 2020, 2:55 pm

Hi All,

This latest activity S - CarbeanSdg_CarnePointWharvesEast has now also been uploaded to UKTS.

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Post  mikeanddi Mon 03 Aug 2020, 10:35 pm

Hi Stephen

Thanks for the latest activity.

I finally completed this after many re-starts from saves.

Initially, I was too late reaching St Blazey yard to even see the helper loco. Later I saw the helper loco, but it disappeared into the distance before I had a chance to be coupled to it. Finally, I made it in time, and successfully completed the activity.

I needed much use of the handbrakes to control the train on the gradients, and to stop in the correct positions, so this was quite an intense experience, but I was glad that I stuck with it.

There was some interesting AI shunting activity at the end which I was able to enjoy by returning to an earlier save after I had completed the activity.

Maybe something a little more relaxing next Laughing

Thanks again
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Post  StephenRWells Tue 04 Aug 2020, 11:43 am

Hi Mike,

Sorry that you had problems with the arrival time at St. Blazey Yard, I thought that I had allowed sufficient time for this. I do have another two freight activities under construction but I'm uncertain whether to upload them when finished as they are even harder in terms of train control, but not timing. you will be relieved to know that the next one to be uploaded will be a straightforward passenger service.

All these activities feature Clive's diesels as provided to run with Open Rails so they should perform well.

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Post  mikeanddi Tue 04 Aug 2020, 2:00 pm

Hi Stephen

I would be happy to run the harder freight activities, so please do upload them, if and when they are ready.

As long as I can successfully save and restart these I will enjoy the challenge.

I do seem to be having trouble restarting saved activities using the latest Monogame and Testing versions of Open Rails, so had to resort to the latest stable version from back in December 2018 to complete your latest activity.

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Post  StephenRWells Wed 19 Aug 2020, 5:26 pm

Hi All,

My latest activity S - PlymouthE_NewquaySumSat has been uploaded to TSSHonline. It will also be available as UKTS Id 39947 when approved.

This has been a tricky one to get working properly especially on the single track sections so leaving Par on time is very important.

Enjoy,

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Post  mikeanddi Mon 31 Aug 2020, 11:13 pm

Hi Stephen

Thanks for the Plymouth to Newquay activity which was excellent and action packed.

I was not able to complete this using the stable December 2018 Open Rails release, because I could not get the signal to depart Plymouth. This was because the service "S - LairaE_MillbayGoods D1022+25Van" did not move from Laira for some reason, but continued to have the road at Plymouth.

There was no such problem using the Monogame Rel 59 version, and I was able to complete the activity successfully, and could resume from all saves.

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Post  StephenRWells Tue 01 Sep 2020, 11:06 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your kind comments, it's always nice to know that someone appreciates the hard work that goes into producing an interesting activity.

The service "S - LairaE_MillbayGoods D1022+25Van" is supposed to wait for you to pass at Laira and then go straight through Plymouth in time for your 10.00 departure from Plymouth. I have just done this first part of the activity using the stable December 2018 Open Rails release and all worked perfectly. I must admit that I normally only use the Open Rails NewYear MG Unofficial ( currently rev. 72 ) mainly because it's performance is better on my computer which is what I used for all the testing. I am also still using Windows7 with no intention to upgrade until I have to.

Thanks again,

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