Andy's Workshop

Markh5682 wrote:Looks really good Andy.

Are you going to set up a passenger view inside the buffet car? it would be a shame for you to do all that work and no one see it close up.

You could still set up passenger views for the other carriages as MSTSBin will allow you to choose which carriage to view the passview in.

Thanks Mark!  
I'm planning on doing Passenger Views for the TSOL (which currently there is), TFK and the Buffet car as well as the T/Wells DEMU Power Car.
Just a question, how does MSTSBin work with my current set? Do I need to put something in the .Eng and .Wag files for this to work, or does MSTSBin just work with anything?

MSTSBin will work with anything, you can add extra things to the .eng file that are bin specific such as lighting but they won't work on a non bin set up.

MSTSBin automatically detects which pieces of stock have the passview line in them and will allow you to choose which one to use.

Hi all,
A little bit more work to do, but Justin is an inspiration to all whom want to venture into Modelling. I'm glad I have tackled this. I've started testing the unit this evening after some fine adjustments...

Hi all,
With testing still ongoing I've started designing my Front page layout for the download, with another image yet to do of the Blue & Grey version still to go in the 4th square.
But here it is so far. I'd be glad to hear anyone's thoughts on this?

Looks OK to me.

Looks fine to me too. Are you planning a green version without the yellow panel?

Danny,
Are you just wanting one with a completely green front? If so, I don't see that would be a problem, the trouble is where do you stop as with the Hastings DEMU sets, you can pretty much keep going??
I have even seen one done in red/Maroon before now, just unable to find it at present.

Their very first livery in BR multiple unit green had a plain green front, acquiring small yellow panels circa 1964  Several went to blue livery with small yellow panel and an odd one had full yellow. 1037 carried a full yellow front whilst in green livery. The majority went from green to blue-grey with full yellow front.
I am not aware of any unique liveries, but I will continue to look.

This book might be worth getting
http://www.amazon.co.uk/British-Railway-Pictorial-Southern-Region/dp/0711035113/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377035895&sr=8-3&keywords=demus
I have one on order for my library.

35005CP wrote:Danny,
Are you just wanting one with a completely green front? If so, I don't see that would be a problem, the trouble is where do you stop as with the Hastings DEMU sets, you can pretty much keep going??
I have even seen one done in red/Maroon before now, just unable to find it at present.

Hi Andy
Sounds like somthing fron the fictitious liveries web site.
Certainly no Southern region DEMUs were painted in anything other than Green, Blue or Blue/Grey.
Although of course some of the the 3 car Hampshire and Oxted units were repainted into Network
South east and Connex liveries later on.
Cheers
Andy

Hi Andy,
For the era Danny's route is set in a plain green front would be the correct colour one of your Hastings DEMU's
Mike

mikehendle wrote:Hi Andy,
For the era Danny's route is set in a plain green front would be the correct colour one of your Hastings DEMU's
Mike

I can confirm Mike's post.

Okay, thanks for the feedback all. I will look into a completely Green Fronted DEMU as well. Could be a massive package being unveiled in the Download Library sometime soon!  

Hi Andy
I am looking forward to getting your Hastings Line DEMU collection,they are 1st Class Models

Mike

Hi Andy, wrt the all Green version I posted a screenshot on the first page of this thread, and this number ( or similar) would be fine. Many thanks for doing this. 

1007 leaving Charing Cross for Tonbridge

Also the problem with the different colour greens appears to be an issue with MSTS lighting as have taken various shots such as this one held at a Red Light.

I think it is the way that MSTS handles contrast especially in greens making them almost black in shadows, here is the same shot with just a quick change in the trains contrast done in PSP, no colours or brightness were changed.

Hi Andy.
Looking VERY NICE, Really looking forward to your sets of Hastings Thumpers, especially the green ones.
How many different versions are you going to do? There is distinct possibility of my Making tracks London Southeast
(original version) being brought into use again.
Now did I dream it, or did you at some point ask about headcodes.
22 is of course Charing Cross to Hastings.
33 is Cannon Street to Hastings. Only used I belive, foe Morning and evening Comuter trains.
There were also Weekend Charing Cross to Ramsgate workings via Dover which carried headcode Black blank 4.

Mike has previously mentioned about 2 car DEMUs, These were Hampshire units 1119-1122 and were used exclusivly on the Ashford
Hastings via Appledore and the Appledore to New Rommney Branch.
When the latter closed, units 1121 and 1122 were transferred to Eastleigh to work the Southampton Ternimus to Alton service.
Hope this is of help.
Cheers
Andy

Mark,
Does annoy me that the colour Green doesn't always show up correctly! Even when you know you've got it right! But hey-ho; all part the parcel.

Andy,
Thanks for the comments. I have stopped making any more .Eng and .Wag Variations for now, as I think there is enough with 3 to keep everyone busy! 
There is
1001 - In Green as Preserved with Tunbridge Wells Motor Coach, Hastings Motor Coach and also Mountfield Motor Coach.
1007 - As requested by Danny (Dee4141) done in complete Green Front.
1035 - Requested by Mike (I believe) in BR Blue/Grey Livery.

TFK Coaches - Done in Blue/Grey and in Green Livery
Buffet Coaches - Done in Blue/Grey and in Green Livery.
TSOL's - Short and Long Variations

All coaches are numbered and have Passenger views.

I think that is about it? Pretty much covered.  

Thanks Andy for the Blue-Grey version,looks like I will have to resurrect my MT LSE route until Danny's steam era route comes out,
Mike

Hi Andy,

Just seen the all green version. You've made a superb job and I like the dark green colour. Many Thanks for doing this. 

Getting a good shade from the PSP colour picker is difficult.
There is another way - blending.

To make a shade of green, fill an image with Yellow.
Make duplicate layer and fill with dark green.

Then slide the layer transparency so some of the yellow shows thru.
This will give a range of greens as you move the slider.

The same effect can also be achieved using the gradient fill tool.

Latest update is that I think I'll be releasing about 6 Hastings DEMU Units....

1001
1004
1007
1019
1035

And one that the Units never went up to 1066 ("Battle of Hastings").....   

With thanks to Dave Robinson (TwoManyDJs) he has allowed me to repaint one of his models. Here is 60163 'Tornado' in BR Purple (Yes you read that right!)  
From news from Graham Langer of the A1 Trust it would seem that 'Tornado' is due to go in this livery at some point soon. Here is the photo he has uploaded to Facebook;



And here she is in the flesh on MSTS;



Enjoy  

Here is a closer pic of Tornado having come off Midhant's Metals at Alton with Support Coach in tow after some repairs? This gives me an idea for an Activity  

Hi everyone,
I have uploaded the file as of 4pm today. This is obviously waiting approval.

But here is the link; http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=31714

And a picture alongside the file;



Cheers!  

1066 Unit - 'Battle of Hastings"  

Hi all,
Here is 1066 'Battle of Hastings' in action. This is Justin's colour scheme, of which my thanks goes to as I think it looks absolutely beautiful!  
I hope everyone else shares my enthusiasm of this colour scheme..
So as we have it there will be 6 DEMU's in the pack!     



Enjoy! 

Hi Andy,
I do like the look of 1066!! Similar, but not quite the same, as the old Derby Corporation trolley buses, for which I have a very soft spot  

Apologies for my ignorance of things Southern, but is that a legitimate livery?

Cheers,
Ged

Hi Ged,

Legitimate in terms of MSTS... It is a Pullman type livery with a Battle of Hastings Sign on it. Hence 1066!!  (Never done in the real world)
It's mine and Justin's take on something that should have been done and looked pleasing to the eye, being a "Hastings DEMU" set.

Cheers

With Actober ever looming closer, I thought I would make a start on an Activity with my Hastings DEMU sets. Here are a few shots of work in progress on the Making Tracks London and South East Route;  







Enjoy!!   

Looking good Andy  

Despite its age the LSE route is still one of the better routes for MSTS, and your Hastings DEMU sets are a perfect match for the route.  

Your new models look super,Andy! 

Well I don't usually get excited about downloading trains (as they never seem to work for me   ) I must admit to looking forward to having a bash at these,they look great.Will they come (please ) as a complete item and easy to install,that's the question.Anyway I will have to dust of my LSE which is a great route and be ready for their introduction.Keep up the good work.,many thanks

Hi everyone,
Thanks for the comments! To Roger's (Neanderthal) question regarding they will come as a full set of 6 with Consists already done and with an Installer as well.
I'm still testing them currently, but so far so good. I will try and get Justin to give them all a test and all being well should be released early October!  
I have a few plans for some others later on, but will mostly concentrate on a couple of Activities and working with Justin on some new releases (Together!)  
Another update to the Act at Tonbridge and I have already done a lot further down the line on the Activity for Actober;

35005CP wrote:Hi all,
Here is 1066 'Battle of Hastings' in action. This is Justin's colour scheme, of which my thanks goes to as I think it looks absolutely beautiful!  
I hope everyone else shares my enthusiasm of this colour scheme..
So as we have it there will be 6 DEMU's in the pack!     



Enjoy! 

There was a same livery for one of the member's fictional company called TGBVR a while back, but I don't think you get anything like that anymore. In real life, that sort of livery was used on West Highland MK1's during the 1980s. I think it is used elsewhere as well.

By the way, it is nice to do a Class 202 and 203, as well as the shorter Class 201s. Have you heard of the Class 206 "Tadpole" units?

Cheers  
Alistair Cowell

Hi Alistair,
I completely forgot about the Class 206 Tadpoles until you reminded me. They consisted of a Hastings DEMU power car and coach with an EPB or a HAP Trailer car on the back and only consisting of a 3 coach train?
I won't be doing these though as you should beable to create a consist using my DEMU Units (Once Released) and incorporating MT's units if required.
Thanks for the Interest though everybody! I've enjoyed doing these. It's been frustrating at times likes all new things you learn! But have been glad of the help and support and patience from Justin all the way through!
Hopefully my next model will be an easier one!
Best Wishes
Andy

Hi Andy,
I like the look of the green and cream Hastings Unit,looks like I will have to dig out my LSE route again
Mike

Hi Guys,

Perhaps I should explain where I got the ideas for the special “Battle of Hastings” livery from:

The colours (which are Southern Railway Bulleid Malachite Green, Pullman Cream with Southern Railway Sunshine Yellow lettering) were inspired by the LNER Gresley Green and Cream coloured tourist stock, whilst the “styling” of the livery was actually based on that of the BR Midland Pullman in that the “van/non passenger” section was the main colour unbroken by the highlight stripe. The original intention was to have a “wrap around yellow front” similar to that found on BR Class 37’s complete with an “anti-glare black out” around the cab windows but I could not get it to look right.

Whilst there are 6 units in this set I should point out that it actually covers 3 versions: the 201 short Hastings units (1004 & 1007), the 202 Hastings Long units (1019) and the 203 Hastings Long units with Buffet coach (1037). The preserved unit 1001 is its correct mix of long and short units, whereas 1066 is intended to be run as a special 8 car set.

Justin

Hi Everyone,
Within the next day or so I will be uploading the Hastings DEMU to Uktrainsim. This has been tested by my good friend Justin and I have been given the Go-ahead after some running-in of the Units up the ECML!  

Here is the Cover for them DEMU's! Hope everyone likes them......  



Now to getting on writing the Document for it. Then will go and package them up and get Justin to check the Installer for them.....

Cheers

Andy

   

I just hope you've got the bug for building more now!  

Well done!

NiallGray wrote:   

I just hope you've got the bug for building more now!  

Well done!

Ditto!!      

Exceptional models for a first build Andy - very well done.  

Thanks everyone. I have most certainly got the building bug now. Got a few ideas for future models.  
I have done the Installer and readme and consists for the DEMU's and I have sent them off to Justin for Final Sign-Off and Checking, so hopefully if all okay I will get these uploaded to UKTS tomorrow!   
Cheers
Andy

Andy,They certainly have the look about them and I for one am getting quite excited,now its just a matter of where have I put LSE ?Cheers,

Hi Andy,

Well with such marvellous models I will have to dig out my LSE disc and reload it to MSTS,at the same time I will to un install that other sim to free up ram on my computer,any way that sim is to expensive for me,I bet they would charge a arm and leg for them.

Mike

Thanks Everyone!
The Hastings DEMU Sets have been uploaded this evening. Be the first to grab them as soon as they are approved on UKTS!  
Enjoy them! I certainly have! And I can now concentrate on my Activity for LSE which includes the Hastings DEMU sets and also testing Justin Activities!!   
File ID awaiting approval is 31821.
Enjoy!
All the best
Andy

Like Mike I will have to reinstall LSE to maximise their use.
Thanks,

Hi
Just to say the Hastings sets might not be put up until later to night or tomorrow as UKTS are at the Peterborough show this weekend,I went there yesterday and know one seemed bothered with MSTS,all the computers I saw working had TS 2014 on them.

Mike

Hi Mike,

all the computers I saw working had TS 2014 on them

Sad, but to be expected, I suppose  
Wasn't there even one showing MEP    

Cheers,
Ged